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LJ in financial trouble? [Jan. 6th, 2009|07:55 am]
Ron Newman

A friend this morning called my attention to this Gawker news article: The Russian Bear Slashes a Social Network:

LiveJournal, the San Francisco-based arm of Sup, a Russian Internet startup, has cut about 20 12 of 28 employees — and offered them no severance

The company's product managers and engineers were laid off, leaving only a handful of finance and operations workers — which speaks to a website to be left on life support.

The Gawker article links to this LJ post by the fiancé of one of the laid-off LJ workers.

Since I just sprung for a Permanent Account during last month's sale, I'm quite displeased by this news. If anyone reading this has thoughts about how to archive a very active local LJ community, or how to migrate it to another service, I'm all ears. Someone pointed me at this Mac utility, but I haven't tried it yet.

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[User Picture]From: richips
2009-01-06 02:36 pm (UTC)
oh my god, i hope that is false, and that everyone will at least get fair warning so we can somehow archive.
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[User Picture]From: nu_luba
2009-01-06 02:57 pm (UTC)
i wonder if us permanent account holders will get some sort of compensation if that happens
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From: dianalily
2009-01-06 05:07 pm (UTC)
Hi Ron - I just posted this in thetathx1138's journal and thought you might be interested.

After following the Mac directions (and hitting return after each of the "Type:" instructions), all my journal comments and entries have downloaded to Users -> [my computer username] -> ljdump1.2 -> dianalily

Within the dianalily file is the entire download. There are documents starting with "C" and with "L". I dragged one of each to RichText to open (if I just click on the document, an empty browser window opens up).

The "C" documents are all comments made in reply to an entry, date included.

The "L" documents are also numbered in sequential order and are my journal entries. And they're in XML format. So the date is included, but the format is decidedly not elegant.

I hope this helps you! I'm not a Mac expert by any means but wanted to let you know following those instructions you posted did achieve the desired result of archiving my LJ.
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2009-01-06 05:15 pm (UTC)
Thanks. What I want to do is back up the davis_square community (where I'm one of the maintainers), not my private journal. Backing up both posts and comments is important. How would I do this?
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From: dianalily
2009-01-06 05:29 pm (UTC)
antennapedia explains a method that appears to archive in a more orderly manner than the method I used above.

I can only suggest giving it a try and seeing what happens.

Otherwise, it will take cutting and pasting each comment entry into each journal entry. And that sounds like more work than creating tags.

I have to run but will be back later, perhaps with more answers if I can talk to people!

Edited at 2009-01-06 05:30 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: mkb_technologie
2009-01-07 01:48 am (UTC)
Use LJSM. Submit your username and password using the -u option and give your community name as the username to archive.
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2009-01-07 02:59 pm (UTC)
I did this. It downloaded all of davis_square but took several hours. Also, it doesn't unfold comments unless I use the -t switch to ship my username and password off to a Russian server -- something I'm not willing to do.
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[User Picture]From: mkb_technologie
2009-01-07 03:04 pm (UTC)
You do this every time you log into LiveJournal.

edit: Oh wait, that's the threader option. I see.

Edited at 2009-01-07 03:07 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2009-01-07 03:11 pm (UTC)
Well yeah, but I trust some random http://lj.setia.ru/threader/threader.php site less than I trust LJ.

(Also, aren't LJ's servers still located in the US?)

Edited at 2009-01-07 03:18 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: mkb_technologie
2009-01-07 03:26 pm (UTC)
SUP owns LJ, Inc. LJ, Inc. owns the servers, so as far as I'm concerned, they're Russian.
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[User Picture]From: moireach
2009-01-07 01:02 am (UTC)
Apparently the real number is actually about 13, which is moderately better, and they released a press-release talking about longterm plans for LJ. I'm still nervous too, though.

ljbook.com may do what you want, though has been overloaded all day, unsurprisingly. (It works with communities and includes comments.)

I haven't tried http://fawx.com/software/ljarchive/ but I've seen it linked many places.
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2009-01-07 01:18 am (UTC)
Some time in the last few hours, the Gawker/ValleyWag article was silently changed to say that LJ cut "12 of 28 employees", when it had formerly said "20 of 28". (I'll update my post.)
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[User Picture]From: cahwyguy
2009-01-13 01:23 am (UTC)
As I saw you post on Margalit's blog (whatwas_i_think), I thought I'd welcome you to the permanent LJ-ers. You can see my post on the subject here.
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2009-01-13 02:01 am (UTC)
Thanks. Was I supposed to get some sort of automatic invitation to permmembers? I never did, and found out about the community only by accident. I even asked on paidmembers whether there was a similar community for perms, and didn't get a response from anyone.

I've been exchanging some comments with the developers of ljdump and ljmigrate (both Python programs), if you're interested in LJ backup solutions for the Linux or Mac environment.

Edited at 2009-01-13 02:02 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: cahwyguy
2009-01-13 04:44 am (UTC)
No, there is no automatic notification of permmembers, other than postings in the comment thread. I'm a PC user -- I do have to update my backup after 4 years.

I thought you might find it interesting I had Margalit syndicated here -- I normally read her on my Friends list.
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